How it all began – 2

DG

Btw, I shouldn’t really post it here… I should do a new thread but there are too many threads already…

Anyway, here it goes:

I’ve seen the piano theories that people have commented in the DDLC forum here in Steam.
If you haven’t you should check them since they’re actually pretty interesting and they’re too long to resume here ( and I’m too lazy )

I’ve been thinking that it MIGHT , and I insist, MIGHT be a Monika’s joke.

How so?

Well I think that she’s not actually practising piano , but practising PYTHON .
This game was made with python right? Well, Monika is practising python so she won’t mess up the game when editing the files and scripts
Also she says that she will show the player her “song” when she’s ready, meaning that she will modify the game when she’s more confident about it so she won’t destroy anything accidentally.

The evolution of the “piano classes”

In the first act she practices for the second act and “messes up” Sayori to commit suicide. Maybe she just added the suicide in the script , forced her to do so or “augmented” her depression. Anyway, her objective was to get rid of Sayori but she saw that it was easier to delete her and start over:

Oh jeez…I didn’t break anything, did I? Hold on a sec, I can probably fix this…I think…
Actually, you know what? This would probably be a lot easier if I just deleted her. She’s the one who’s making this so difficult. Ahaha! Well, here’s goes nothing.

In the second act she glitches the game but manages to modify the girls up to a point. She can “control” Natsuki ( deleting her memory * Completely* and making her say things she doesn’t want to) and also “messes up” Yuri’s obsessive and unbalanced personality to scare you off. Again, she maybe “increased” her obsession or modified her script. In the end, she saw that it was going to end like Sayori. So when she also commited suicide ( she knew she was going to do so *have a nice weekend*) , she decided to delete EVERYTHING because she was feeling more confident with her ” piano” skills

In the third act she has total control of the game now . She can do whatever she wants (save/load control…) Eventhough, there are some parts of the game completely broken, such as the poem maker functionality

In the fourth and final act, although she is deleted and no longer in a character file, she still is in the game. She is in the python scripts and can still modify the game one last time to delete all of it and to stop the cycle because, apparently, the President of the Literature Club has the ability to know that they’re just scripts and there’s a whole world beyond their own limitations.

So, what do you think guys?
Interesting?
Stupid?
Should have I been sober while writing this?

Let me know what you think and thanks for reading this far!

God.jpg

Very likely and i think it would make sense considering there would have been much easier ways to get the player’s love and that she cannot alter the game perfectly hence the mass amounts of glitches

Falconhoof

That’s an intersting theory. I do have a quote from Monika in the void that might mess it up a bit though (sorry).

“Man, I wish there was a piano in here…”
“I never got to finish that song I was working on.”
“And after I worked so hard on it…”
“I never even got a chance to play it for you.”
“Well…it is what it is, right?”
“No sense having any regrets.”
“I already get to be here with you forever.”

Depending on how you interpret this, it could support or refute the piano theory. In support of it, she could be lamenting the fact that there isn’t a computer there to show off her new python skills. Another meaning one could take from it is that the “song” she was working on was her own path in the game that the player could take and that she had to destroy all her hard work when she destroyed everything else. But there wouldn’t be too much sense in regretting it because she gets to spend the rest of forever with you, right?

However, she openly changes features of the game at that point and doesn’t hide it from the player. If her piano skills are really python skills, why would she still be maintaining the facade at this point? That part doesn’t make sense to me but you could interpret it any way you like. If there’s something you think I’ve overlooked I’d like to hear about it.

xae-chan

I really like the piano theories. Monika was always late with the piano practice, which doesn’t jibe with the attitude she presents as club president. That made me suspicious then it was a cover for something else

Falconhoof, remember Monika’s MO is manipulator. Leopards do not change their spots. The little speech to the player character is a metaphor: piano=computer, finish that script, play=run it for you,. And forever= mission accomplished. (And don’t let the poor sap know how he’s been played.)

DG

To start with, thanks Falconhoof and xae-chan for your responses

About there wouldn’t be too much sense in regretting it(destroying all) because she gets to spend the rest of forever with you, right?

Well, her final objective was to spend the rest of her time with you, yes, but she accomplished it in a way that didn’t satisfy her. She wanted to play with you during the game. She wanted your poems to be for her, she wanted her own CGs but instead she didn’t obtain anything at all. She just was there, watching how you didn’t show a single shadow of attention to her. That drove her insanely jealous (she mentions this jealousy in the void if I’m not wrong) and decided to send all to hell just to be with you ( yet she didn’t actually delete anything but well)

It’s true that she openly changes features of the game at that point and doesn’t hide it from the player. But, she wants to keep the game, I mean, she wants to see where it goes, if she can actually make you hate them rather than just throwing you with her to the void (which would be rather boring and dull)

Like xae-chan says Monika’s MO is manipulator

She probably enjoys trying to control the girls, playing with you , yet it’s true that she ends up tired of trying.

I hate this.
I CAN’T DO ANYTHING. NOTHING.
No matter how many times you play. It’s all the same.
It would be really, really easy to kill myself right now. But that would mean I don’t get to talk to you anymore.
All I want is for you to hate them. Why is that so hard?

That also explains why she actually stops trying to hide the glitches and her control to the player

xae-chan’s response resumes my idea pretty well

Somali Pirate Radio

I note piano could be piano and python at the same time. It is likely not a coincidence that both are played with a keyboard. And we DO know she’s actually been practicing the piano.

As far as hiding glitches goes… my impression is that during loop 1, she was trying to keep her work int he background, so her work was invisible and it still looked like a normal game to the player.

After the Sayori scene, well, things have already started to glitch pretty bad and I guess she just decided “in for a penny, in for a pound”, especially since she isn’t actually sure she can fix it. Also, at that point an entire route full of subtle manipulation hadn’t created her route, or even a scene, so drastic measures were clearly required.

DG

Somali Pirate Radio, very good pointing out I note piano could be piano and python at the same time. It is likely not a coincidence that both are played with a keyboard

I hadn’t realized! Brilliant…

After the Sayori scene, well, things have already started to glitch pretty bad and I guess she just decided “in for a penny, in for a pound”, especially since she isn’t actually sure she can fix it.

This is also true because, like Monika says I really messed up didn’t I? I hope I haven’t broken anything. She is the one making this so difficult… You know what? Screw it, I’m deleting her

Sadly, after all the subtle manipulations, she wasn’t able to accomplish anything, so she decided to go “all in” because desperation was unbearable for her.

Ok everyone! I see guys that you’re really liking this discussion… Cool!

I have some theories about the continuation of the game too, so if you guys want me to share them with you, please tell me 😛
I might continue here or I could make a new thread or even join an existing one…
Just tell me what you think 🙂
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